Examining the Immorality of Sexually Moralistic Liars


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This morning, while checking out Carol Boltz’s latest blog post, I saw a link to a “survey” (and I use the term loosely) put out by the Public Advocate of the United States.  Apparently, the PAUS is yet another group of moralizing Christian busy-bodies posing as “defenders of traditional values.” I put that in quotes because, given how little integrity they demonstrate in presenting the facts and issues they discuss, I have a hard time buying they’d know a traditional value if it bit them on the butt.  The truth is, they’re just a bunch of moralists who want to say what kind of relationships and sexual activities are okay.  They don’t care about anything like compassion, integrity, loyalty, hospitality, justice, or anything you might find in the Boy Scout Law, the fruit of the spirit passage in the New Testament, or any other treatise on what it means to be a moral person.

Their “survey,” however, is instructive.  It demonstrates just how willing they are to put out leading questions that are worded in such a way that they practically beg to be answered they way PAUS wants people to answer them.  It’s much like using the infamous “have you stopped beating your wife yet?” and only giving the options to answer yes or no.  What idiot is going to answer that question “no,” even if he’s never beat his wife.

So with that in mind, I want to take a moment to examine their five questions, dissect them, and demonstrate just how manipulative and misleading they are.

1. Should homosexuals receive special job rights and force businesses, schools, churches and even daycares to hire and advance homosexuals or face prosecution and multimillion-dollar lawsuits?

I believe that all employers should base their hiring decisions on exactly one thing:  The applicant’s ability to perform the duties of the job being applied for.  And that’s exactly what non-discrimination legislation is about.  It’s not about “special rights.”  It’s a way of telling employers that, “Hey, if the guy applying for that job happens to be gay and that’s the only reason you’re not giving it to him, that’s discrimination and you’re breaking the law.”  Personally, I’d add that any employer who turns down a highly candidate for such a reason should not be an employer because they’re probably not a very good one.  They certainly don’t have the best interests of their business or organization in mind.  That also tends to make them rather immoral, in my book.

But rather than own up to discriminating, engaging in bad hiring practices, and being and incompetent and immoral employer, it’s much easier to pretend it’s about “special rights” and being “forced” into everything.  No one wants to oppose a victim, so they’d rather play the victim.  And hey, what’s a little dishonesty?  Like I said, they’re just against sex.

2. Do you support the use of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to fund homosexual “art”, so called AIDS-awareness programs and homosexual research grants that are frequently funneled to political advocacy?

I’m a strong believer that all art should be supported, and I find it interesting that these guys are only opposed to “homosexual” art.  I can understand and respect those people who believe that all art should be privately funded (though I disagree vehemently with them) because they’re being consistent.  These guys, however, are going for the shock value of funding “gay art.”

And I really would like to ask PAUS about what they would do about AIDS?  Just let everyone who becomes infected die?  Not very compassionate.  That’s another traditional values failure on their part.

3. Should homosexuality be promoted in school as a healthy lifestyle choice, while information about the life threatening consequences are ignored?

The only life threatening consequences of “homosexuality” are the same life-threatening consequences of that anyone of any sexual orientation potentially faces.  Straight people contract HIV and other STD’s as well.  What’s more, the approaches to address and decrease those dangers is also the same for gay and heterosexual people alike.  People like the PAUS simply like to pretend that there’s bigger risks for gay people.  However, the only support they have for those claims comes from outdated and/or bad (junk) science.

And no one’s suggesting that we shouldn’t have a frank talk about health risks and ways of preventing illness.  I’m all for talking about the very real risks of sexual activity.  The difference between me and PAUS is that I don’t want to use that talk to scare and manipulate (that’s another values failure, for those keeping track) people into doing what I want them to do.  I simply want them to be able to make informed decisions.  The PAUS wants them to make the “right” (determined by the PAUS, of course) decision based on misleading or outright false information.

4. Do you support same-sex “marriage” for homosexuals or “marriage-like” rights, like homosexuals being able to adopt children and raise them in their “lifestyle”?

Oh no!  The gays are raising children.  You can almost hear the implied screams of “They’re recruiting” buried in this question.  There’s just one problem.  There’s absolutely zero evidence that a child raised by gay people is any more likely to be gay than those raised by straight people.  And let’s be honest here, gay people just aren’t going to care whether their kid is straight or gay.  This is more fear-mongering by PAUS.

5.   Should the U.S. Supreme Court overturn traditional marriage between one man and one woman?

The problem with this question is that it ignores the fact that the “traditional family” that people like PAUS keep touting is a fabrication of the 1950’s.  People two hundred years ago did not marry for love, something that is big these days.  They often were involved in arranged marriages, and they were often for political reasons.  They also often involved paying a dowry.  Like the bumper sticker says, “I believe in traditional marriage.  How much do you want for your daughter.”

In fact, the Bible makes it pretty clear that a one-man, one-woman marriage was far from the only possible or acceptable arrangement.  The number of Biblical heroes — men established as God-fearing men and mighty instruments of Jehovah’s will — had multiple wives and even concubines.  And to top that off, considering that the only two Biblical prohibitions against polygamy were directed at specific groups of individuals (namely kings and ministers), one could argue that the underlying implication is that polygamy is perfectly acceptable.  Somehow, I don’t think the PAUS will be looking to support quite such a “literal” interpretation of those passages, though.  πŸ˜‰

But the PAUS would rather have you believe that this is the first time our understanding of love, marriage, and relationships has undergone any sort of shift.  This is because they want to let you believe that this will spell certain doom.  If gay people start getting married, existing stable families will magically crumble to dust (I never understood how that’s supposed to work, anyway) and no one will ever want to raise a family again.  Because if you let us gay get married, your desire for a spouse and 2.5 kids will get absorbed by the resulting gay mojo that will be released or something.  Hey, the PAUS doesn’t need to make sense.  They just need to prey on your fears enough that you do whatever they tell you to.

So there you have it.  That’s how moralistic groups that like to pretend they’re about “traditional values” spin and manipulate the facts to try and get people to agree with them.  But don’t believe it for a second.  You won’t find any true morality in them.

9 thoughts on “Examining the Immorality of Sexually Moralistic Liars”

  1. Here’s my thought..and I hate pretending I know stuff about stuff I know nothing about…so feel free to correct me on any level…

    But the idea that gay people “recruit” is patently ridiculous to me for one simple reason…I can’t say I know any gay people who would wish the struggles of being gay on anyone for the purpose of “recruiting” them to the gay lifestyle.

    Instead, what I see is gay people simply wanting to support those who have already found themselves to be a part of this minority group and are facing the challenges that go with it.

    And anyhow, I agree with you on these points.

  2. Hey Jarred! Sorry I had gone AFK! Yes, I’m on twitter see said URL above! And nice to meet you! Hopefully catch up again soon! πŸ™‚ And thank you again for sharing the story! πŸ˜€

  3. Erin, your comments are pretty spot on. The only thing that I would add is that the idea of “recruiting” is completely antithetical to most gay people’s understanding of sexual orientation and what gay rights is about. People’s sexual orientation is what it is, and trying to “turn a straight person gay” makes no more sense to us than the idea of trying to “turn a gay person straight.” Furthermore, it violates the underlying principle that people should be free to embrace their sexuality for what it is.

    Granted, I won’t deny joking about recruiting a particularly cute guy I run into later when I’m among friends. But that’s just joking around.

  4. Hello TheBippi and welcome to my little corner of the blogosphere. No worries about going AFK. It happens. And I look forward to talking to you again soon. As for sharing the story, you’re most welcome.

  5. Oh right, I totally get that and I believe that. I was speaking more about groups who hold the perspective that “gay is a choice”…they should realize that, even if so, the idea that a gay person would wish that on someone who is not gay is in error…because in my humble perspective, it’s not an easier path, by any means.

    Do I make sense? Anyhow, in a nutshell, their argument isn’t logical.

  6. This is the first time reading your blog and I’d like to let you know that I appreciate you speaking on this topic in such a reasonable manner. I have had a tendency to find that when people talk about such a politically, religously, and morally charged topic like this they tend to go off the deep end, no matter which side of the topic they are on. I actually found your blog by googling one of the questions’s on the PAUS questinaire becuase I didn’t understand what they were asking or thought they were only asking half the question. I believe that they undermine thier own agenda by putting up such a rigged survey. It turns people off and pushes them away.
    After reading this entry of your blog I explored your archives and find your blog interesting and enertaining. I like the tone. Reading through your blog also gave me some questions. What brought you to pagenism? And in turn away from the church? I understand that these can be personally issues and would fully understand if you’d rather not answer them.
    Thank-you for your insightful post.

  7. Yes, what you’re saying makes sense, though it touches an an argument that I find very problematic. (That is, “Why would anyone choose to be gay, given how much garbage they have to put up with?”) While there’s a kernel of truth to that argument on a basic level, there are also subtle nuances and complexities which limit how far one should take it. But that’s probably something for another blog post. πŸ˜‰

  8. Hi Toni, and welcome to my blog. Thanks for the compliment. Yeah, the anti-gay industry tends to be pretty out there. Fortunately, there are entire sites and blogs dedicated to unraveling their spin, so I only have to chip in on that process when the mood strikes me. πŸ˜‰

  9. Hi Jarred, well done for taking the time to unravel their blatant propaganda – those questions are outrageously biased and distorted.

    Meanwhile, I want some of that gay mojo πŸ˜‰

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